jenanorexia (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i pray for you

craigstapp (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I agree with Jim Caviezel. I've got no reason to think that he's wrong, truthfully.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Go to web site FORA TV and look for the following video (you'll learn a lot):Brother Consolmagno discusses God's MechanicsVatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno is a Jesuit brother with advanced degrees from MIT and the U of Arizona. A highly respected planetary scientist, his book God's Mechanics: How Scientists and Engineers Make Sense of Religion offers an engaging look at how scientists can hold profound, "unprovable" religious beliefs while working in empirical fields.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I recommend that you review my wrap up again... carefully.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

idea of a god stupid and childish, my personal opinionAnother grand-standing claim.I don't want to force you to accept my world viewYes you do. By saying that it is irrational.Making scientific statements about god is completely scientific. According to science he doesn't existHeres where your high school level epistemology comes into play. Neither Popper nor Lakatos nor Kuhn nor Feyerabend nor Einstein nor the second Wittgenstein would say this.Only believers in scientism.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

god in the bible logical impossibilityYou talk about things you ignore. Clue: Google analogy.you who seem to think that I have made grand-stands claims about science and godYou have. See above, on god in the bible."God is not a scientific fact" Then how can you claim it to be true for anyone except yourself?Because meaningful language is not confined to the realm of empirical science.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

a guy who wants to force his personal beliefs onto otherHow so? In what way different from what you want to do with your own personal beliefs?catholics... What does the earth revolve around again?I dont know. Ask Einsteins theory of relativity (which you thoroughly understand). Then come back and tell me.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

no more irrational than a belief in good, a belief in true love or a belief in friendship - They can never be true or falseHuh??? :)you clearly have severe misconcpetions about my positionYou position is pretty transparent.You seem to lack an understanding of the differences in ideology, philosophy and religionNope. Your false philosophy (scientism) is turned into an ideology and is embraced with religious trust. It gives you a (false) compass when it comes to discussing God.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Much like the invicible gnomre living under your houseUseless analogy. Believers do experience the divine, and they share their experiences with others. The fact that you dont believe you have that experience only means that we are all prone to myopia.I've said that faith is irrational, which it isFalse. No definition of faith speaks of irrationality. Just you, twisting the meaning of proof to suit your purposes.

maliagar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What have I said that is baseless about god? I have said there is no proof for himWrong. Expecting scientific (i.e., empirical) proof of god is like expecting scientific proof of the existence of beauty. Duh!You should speak in the personal. You should say that to the best of your knowledge you havent had an experience of him. Thats as far as you could go.