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whovian1971 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Id is creationism. It's politically stealthy and vague creationism. Try again!
smburney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"The Science is awful." PhD holding scientists use the same methods as secular ones with different presuppositions. False dichotomy argument is incorrect. Most creation scientists seek to give evidence in the affirmative. Look at answersingenesis(dot)org. Theistic evolution is not what most mainstream protestants believe. I am only at 8 minutes in and she has already made a pile of straw men a mile high.
smburney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
First she lumps ID with all types of Creationism, which is a fallacy. ID is not a subset of Creation Science, it would better be displayed as a Venn Diagram with similarities in between.Then she says that "God created everything in its present form." This is totally not what creationists argue. Creationists do not hold to a lawn diagram of biology, but an orchard, wrong again. Hardly anyone holds to progressive creationism.
whovian1971 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
No, she's isn't spouting claims that aren't true. You're a ranting nut who doesn't know what your talking about!
xxFortunadoxx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
yes. feel free to ignore the mountains of evidence which have formed over the last 20 years in support of evolution and simply write off the scientific theory based upon your ignorance of it. Sorry, the real world doesn't work that way. Evolution is true and no amount of condescending rhetoric will stop that.
manbearpig191 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
creationists and evolutionists are both dumbassescreationists believe something that is so far out ther and they live their life around itevolutionists are dumber cuz they actually think their idea makes sense even creationists arent that stupidfuck you all
TheBackyardProfessor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And, we have the brand new book out this year (2008) from Ken Miller, one of the science witnesses who testified at Dover, "Only A Theory" which shows very informatively and with great verve concerning the Hox Gene and this strawman argument of instantaneous formation of new organs. This really is a strawman as you note Falliblefiend.....
TheBackyardProfessor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Actually, I found her lecture very informative and seriously factual. I also have discussed some of this kind of materials in my videos on Intelligent Design - Good Religion, ID-iotic Science on my Backyard Professor You Tube site.
ChemEBeaver (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
you mean proof like in the dna retrovirus? or genome sequencing? or fossil records?i suppose if u ignore all the evidences there are then, yes there would be no evidence.creationists are very good at this. ignoring the evidence and saying i dont see any.i believe the word is ignorance.
ChemEBeaver (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"Only an idiot would say disprove this and whatever's left is what is truth."so r u calling creationists idiots then? isnt that what creationism/IE all about? saying evolution is disproven so theres no need to prove creationism/IE? where's their research? |
