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KafkaCrow (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Sorry, but the fact that this man still thinks that Noah's Ark still exists makes it hard for me to take him seriously.
nurbSoldier (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Whoa, wait a second. First you accuse Griffin of taking Lenin's words out of context. Then someone else asks you for proof of such. You then demand that Griffin's innocence be proven.The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
numberonedon1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I am not in anyway in disagreement with you about the things that happened under lenins control, I am simply saying why does Griffin need to switch words round to prove a point when there is enough factual evidence to back up his claim. I pisses me off when that happens someone in his position should analyze and evaluate not fit things in where he thinks they should go. I no what Lenin and his successor etc done was outrageous but griffin shouldn't down talk something because he doesn't agree
RonPaulRULEZ2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
well where griffins proof?I understand why Lenin felt he should go about that revolution how he did, but it still led to millions being murdered. It still led to people's lives being manipulated into being a tool of the society, at the communists whim. It led to people losing their self created lives, like, their businesses and homes. Unfortunately it did turn into overthrowing tyranny while installing it again with tyranny, with the idea of good intent. But it didn't work. Tyranny never works.
numberonedon1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
well where griffins proof???? without reviewing the EVIDENCE you will not know, you just take Griffins word for it. Lenin never spoke those words directed toward anyone, that would symbolize a dictatorship which is quite the opposite of socialism. however the Bolsheviks were a dictatorship. when Lenin talks about killing anyone who opposes you he is referring to the Whites and autocracy not just anyone in general but griffin did not point this out in his little down talk of socialism
RonPaulRULEZ2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
numberonedon1.Please explain, in detail, the distortion in what Griffin says. And also please explain, in detail, Lenin's actual quote and view (that came out of his mouth) so we can all know. Be exact, if you can quote Lenin's real words.
numberonedon1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I am not disputing the outcome he is taking Lenin's words out of context, it is a pathetic way of making your point. it is the same with everything if America doesn't agree then they make up lies to support THEIR truth. I know a lot about the revolution and I agree with the video completely but why cant he use actual historical evidence rather than distort the words of Lenin??????
RonPaulRULEZ2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
There is no distortion of History in this. The truth is evident in the outcome. Look at Russia during the early 1900's during lenin/stalin 30 MILLION russians murdered, more than Nazi Germany and the facts are anywhere you want to search, including National Geographic.
RonPaulRULEZ2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
There is no distortion of History in this. The truth is evident in the outcome. Look at Russia during the early 1900's during lenin/stalin 30 MILLION russians murdered, more than Nazi Germany and the facts are anywhere you want to search, including National Geographic.
numberonedon1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
read a few history books published outside of America before you comment.sure he has the names right but he is distorting history, which Americans are well known for to fit there own pro capital views.I am in favor of capitalism, but I don't believe in distorting history to make my point |
